50 Climbing Bolts Breaking in Sandstone

“Know how hard thou needest to tug it before you get release”

The Bolting Bible

The Book of Numbers

Welcome to our free course as our way of contributing to the bolting community. It's nice to understand what you are clipping and trusting with your life, even if you never plan on installing or removing bolts. Also, if someone is going to spend their time and money to bolt something, I assume, they probably want to do it as good as possible. Hopefully the Bolting Bible gives you the tools you need to do a great job. Get it?


Our courses are A-Z content in blog format, glued together with an over arching blog we call a text book. A blog format is easy to read, easy to update, and easy to translate. Be sure to begin at the TEXTBOOK and at the end of each episode we'll point you to the next.


BoltBuster is a project that Bobby Hutton and I built to test climbing bolts in every scenario imaginable. We learned how hydraulic systems worked and how we could use them to generate well above 100kn to be able to test to destruction any bolt we wanted to. We have one machine that looks like a bar stool for testing in tension. It has a hollow ram hydraulic cylinder on top to lift our long threaded rod to pull the bolt out of rock. To test in shear, we have a 4” hydraulic cylinder (like you would see on a tractor) that we anchor to the ground on one side and attach to our bolt victim with the other.

 

The Bolt Buster project is unique because:

1) We try to be as sciency as we can afford with 3 samples of anything we test and typically we test both shear and in tension.

2) All results are published for free in The Bolting Bible - a culmination of everything I could find about bolts online + our research

3) We share the results organized in this "Book of Numbers blog and in easy to digest videos.

4) We don’t make any products so have no incentive to bias the results.

We are funded by YOU, our viewers, not by companies trying to sell you a product. We DON’T test in a lab with small blocks of cement simulating real world situations - we just go outside and pull bolts in an as realistic scenario as possible. See behind the scenes in this EPISODE.


Why test gear that is already tested, rated and certified???? We are not trying to test to the standards. We are trying to see what happens in real world use. We feel standards organizations issue test parameters that are very narrow and designed to eliminate as many variables as possible. Which is awesome for comparing multiple manufacturers to a standard. What we have an issue with is that the end user doesn’t know that standard or the test parameters because 1) it was written in Engineer and 2) it is behind a paywall. When an end user steps out of those sometimes unrealistic guidelines, the strength can vary widely. We strive to test realistic scenarios that we as climbers and highliners find ourselves in. We also feel that independent testing is very important to keep some manufacturers honest. All that to say we are just super curious and like breaking things and finding the answers to questions like:

● What happens if you over torque the bolt? Or

don’t tighten it enough?

● Is it bad to oversize the hole when using

glue ins? Is too much glue bad?

● What happens if you install a P shape glue in

bolt backwards?

● What happens if you pull a glue in sideways?

● Is a ½” hanger bad on a ⅜” bolt

● Do you install the hanger below or above the

flange on the Fixe Triplex bolts?

● Are concrete screws reliable?

● Are the shitty ⅜” PB+ bolts rated to what they claim?

● Are the welds weak on xyz bolts?

● Are off brand hangers on amazon safe?

● How strong are wave bolts WITHOUT glue?

● What happens if you don’t clean a hole before gluing?

● Break tests in granite vs sandstone with the same bolts?

● What is the actual strength of AC100 vs epoxy?

● Is expired glue safe?

● Many bolts have 1 MBS number, what about pulling in tension?

● Do chains drastically reduce a bolt’s strength (since it pulls higher up on the bolt)?


You would be surprised what we DON’T know about bolting as a community. We hope the community as a whole is better informed after all our BoltBuster tests. We think you can learn more in 5 minutes watching our compilation EPISODE (the main video at the top of this blog) about how much you hate psytrance music... or HOW bolts break than most experienced bolters. This is 50 break tests in sandstone in super slow motion at 960FPS and you will see the bolt doesn't always come out. Sometimes the hanger breaks, the rock fails or the bolt snaps.

We have done a lot of tests in concrete because it was convenient. As you can imagine, setting up our break test machines, installing the bolts, pulling them in a way that doesn’t break our gear or our bodies and filming 3 angles on every test and recording it all on the spread sheet, takes a long long time. And most of the time the bolt or hanger fails not the rock, So we tested in concrete and if we had a failure influenced by the concrete we add it to the list of things to break when we test in real rock. When we do test in real rock, we make sure it is in the middle of nowhere and of no use to anyone, and when finished, we remove everything we can and camouflage the remaining metal.

While we try not to damage any areas, we balance that against the value these tests have to those who are going to put in bolts. We hope that because of these test there will be less bolts that will last much longer. Highliners for example were using 4 to 6 bolts for each anchor, but our research has clearly shown that we can use 2 or 3 now.


Our goal is to break 1000 bolts and not any more of our break test equipment! All of our tests we have done so far are organized below and associated with the video if available. We have been able to answer some common questions and address some persistent myths as well as make the Bolting Bible way more complete than version 1, before Bolt Busters. A huge thank you to all who have donated so far towards this form of edutainment. Not only has it helped pay the bills but it makes us so STOKED to know that other people care about our project to donate money. 100% of your donations go back into the channel and break tests.


HowNOT2 SWAG

Believe it or not, bolting companies are not lining up to sponsor us; mostly because there is no money in such a niche industry. $1 per episode helps a ton and so does grabbing MERCH if something grabs your eye. Lots of designs and options.


 

Bolt Busters

These are (almost) all of our results of our tests with the associated episode. Doubling this section spring of 2023.


TABLE OF CONTENTS


BOLTS AND HANGERS

1. Crux Monster 12mm Solid leg bolts from Bolt Products

2. Simpson Strong Tie Titan HD concrete screws

3. Dewalt Power studs

4. Wave Bolts

5. Fixe Triplex Removable bolts

6. Uncommon Bolts Tested

7. Fixe Hely Glue Ins

8. Powers 5 Piece Bolts

9. Confast Sleeve Bolts

10. Petzl Coeur Pulse

11. 5/8" Wedge Bolts in Sandstone

12. 8mm and 10mm Solid Leg Bolts from bolt products

13. 6mm and 8mm Twisted Bolts from Bolt Products

14. All our climbing hanger tests!

15. CMI arborist hangers


THEORIES TESTED

16. Is Too Much Glue Bad?

17. Is wet sandstone sketchy?

18. Is Expired Glue safe?

19. Are dirty holes dangerous for glue in bolts?

20. Does torquing glue ins crack the glue and compromise them?



1. Crux Monster 12mm Solid leg bolts from Bolt Products











2. Simpson Strong-Tie Titen HD Concrete Screws

Episode coming soon. Can't believe I haven't made one about these yet! We love them.


3. Dewalt Power studs

This is about 1/2" Dewalt Powerstuds. Will make a video about 3/8" soon.



4. Wave Bolts










5. Fixe Triplex Removable bolts
















6. Uncommon Bolts Tested
















7. Fixe Hely Glue Ins



8. Powers 5 Piece Bolts

Episode coming soon!



9. Confast Sleeve Bolts

Episode coming soon!




10. Petzl Coeur Pulse














11. 5/8" Wedge Bolts in Sandstone



















12. 8mm and 10mm Solid Leg Bolts from bolt products



13. 6mm and 8mm Twisted Bolts from Bolt Products

Episode coming soon!




14. All our climbing hanger tests!





























15. CMI arborist hangers




16. Is Too Much Glue Bad?



17. Is wet sandstone sketchy?

Episode coming soon!




18. Is Expired Glue safe?