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I Hate Amazon's 12kN Carabiners

Caraibiners rated for climbing fail at at least 20 kn when tested on the major axis. The 12kn carabiners we test in this episode ook and feel like climbing carabiners and could easily be mistaken as life supporting devices. The product descriptions, reviews and comments can also be vague if not directly recommending them for climbing use. You need your aluminum stronger than you need it so it doesn't become fatigued and suddenly snap on you. The carabiners we broke all failed at higher than 12kn in this episode but that doesn't mean they are proof loaded and meet the standards for climbing use.

DO NOT BUY THESE - these links are just for you to reference the carabiners we tested in this episode. We literally threw away the extra ones we did not break or use so they don't accidentally get mixed into my gear




BUY THESE - Here are some recommended carabiners that I own and like The Camp Nano 22 in this episode (a bit small for normal use)

Black Diamond wire gate oval (my main carabiner I use)

Camp Photon carabiners (I own 40+ of these)

Camp Photon locking carabiner

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Breaking Gear Fear

Edutainment has been a great way to help people understand their gear, and know the true limitations of it.  Watching HOW gear fails is more important than the force itself, as almost all gear is super good enough.  It's more important to share information on how to stay safe than it is to have a paywall.  We hope our stoke is contagious.

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