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Are permanent quickdraws with deep grooves dangerous?

Sooooo.... I moved and got sooooo busy I forgot that this was my transition video to share the big change with everyone. This is my last episode in front of the old gear wall!!!

Sam Warren (@lifetime.warranty) pulled these draws off Super Soul Sureshot ( in Arkansas because the quickdraws had deep grooves and replaced them with ClimbTech's wire draws (

Dog Bones would break before carabiners and the carabiners ALL BROKE ABOVE MBS (sample 1019 was take up to 27kn in the sample 1018).

Sample 1014: 20.00kn - dog bone broke

Sample 1015: 25.64kn - carabiner broke

Sample 1016: 18.05kn - dog bone broke

Sample 1017: 25.76kn - rope broke

Sample 1018: 27.02kn - rope broke again

Sample 1019: 19.00kn - carabiner broke (same one from tests 1016-1018)

Sample 1020: 20.03kn - dog bone broke

Sample 1021: 26.14kn - carabiner broke

Sample 1022: 20.38kn - dog bone broke

Sample 1023: 24.76kn - carabiner broke

Sample 1024: 19.38kn - dog bone broke

Sample 1025: 32.48kn - steel carabiner broke

Sample 1026: 19.10kn - dog bone broke Sample 1027: 24.68kn - dog bone broke

Full SlackSnap chart (AND MORE) is at

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